AFL trade period, day five live updates: Geelong opens Charlie Curnow bidding, Leek Aleer's manager slams Saints, Clayton Oliver picks GWS

Plenty of criticism continuing to come St Kilda's way around the decision to walk away from a trade for Leek Aleer.

Giants football boss Jason McCartney says GWS would love to have the 21-year-old defender back.

"This wasn't a difficult trade negotiation, that is just fact," McCartney told Trade Radio.

"I am loathe to make comment on what other clubs are doing.

"Leek is absolutely shattered. He is more than welcome to play at the Giants next year but he is shock at the moment."

any chance someone else goes after aleer and if so who

- Tim

GWS is reported to have tabled a "modest" three-year offer for Leek Aleer, but I'd imagine he'd have no shortage of other suitors.

His management is likely putting out feelers today to find out who else is keen.

The problem is clubs meticulously plan for these things months in advance and obviously did not know Aleer would be available as the Saints thing seemed a formality.

Is there someone with enough cap space floating about that can chuck a good offer at him?

I wonder whether the Dogs would have a crack, he'd be an excellent fit over there. The Giants' cross-town rival, Sydney, also has a glaring need in their key position defensive stocks.

Minus the miocheck move and noise around Nick Daicos has there been any other form of movement at the pies

- Bailey

The big one was obviously Clayton Oliver, but now that Oliver's picked the Giants, I wonder where the Pies pivot.

If the Saints are really desperate to get rid of the Jack Steele money, the Pies could do much worse than having a crack at Steele.

Steele would surely find playing for the Pies more appealing than going to other clubs lower down the ladder.

Justin Leppitsch mentioned the midfield being the Pies' priority yesterday, so expect the Pies to keep sniffing around any mids who are remotely available.

So my view on this is that we've got to have some nuance and understand that not all draft picks are created equal.

Firstly, credit to the Cats for going all-in like that, they're clearly keen on Charlie Curnow.

However, there's no chance Carlton is accepting three picks that are going to end up in the 20s.

It's similar to the problem Hawthorn has with Zach Merrett as well.

If the Cats and Hawks are both serious about getting these deals over the line, they're both going to have to throw in some good young players. Whether they do that or not is another question.

Good on Carlton and Essendon for not accepting deals centred around what Bill Simmons affectionately calls the "Poo Poo Platter" of picks.

I've also rated both the Blues and Dons not willing to state what they'd accept for Curnow and Merrett, that's on the other teams.

Carlton's football boss Chris Davies is on Trade Radio, and it's fair to say there's still work to be done if Geelong wants to get Charlie Curnow out of the club.

Here's Davies on that reported trade offer of three first-rounders tabled by the Cats.

"Importantly, the club's position has been that we don't want Charlie to be leaving Carlton, and that's the first thing we should all be aware of here," he said.

"The second part of this conversation is understanding what three first-round picks might actually look like and, for Geelong, those three picks are effectively going to be picks in the 20s.

"If that's what the offer ends up being - notwithstanding the fact that we don't want Charlie to go - I'm not sure anyone would think that's a reasonable deal for who Charlie Curnow is.

"What has been clear from day one is that we're not going to be in a position we're having to suggest to other clubs what we think Charlie's worth, we want Charlie to stay.

"I'm not going to get into what we think Charlie's worth other than to say we want Charlie to be at Carlton.

"We value him far more than what some other people are suggesting around the competition he's worth."

Righto Cats, over to you then.

The fallout has continued from St Kilda's decision to walk away from trading for Leek Aleer after wooing him for two years.

Aleer's manager, Dylan Smith, provided Nine with an explosive statement, saying his client is "livid".

"This came as an absolute shock," Smith said.

"They've been whining [sic] and dining for him for two years. They loved where he was at and finally turned his head.

"They got him in, had the meetings and convinced him that the Saints was where he should be. It was a good fit. It was a career move and a four-year [contract] playing alongside Jack Silvagni and others.

"Today they backflipped because they don't have the picks for him … They couldn't get a future second-rounder for him.

"Leek is not happy and to be honest, livid with the situation. Clubs have rung me and said, 'It's a disgrace, what have they done?' Nobody from the Saints has spoken to him."

We've got the first real movement in the Charlie Curnow sweepstakes as Geelong tables an opening bid.

According to AFL.com.au's Cal Twomey, the Cats have placed three first-rounders on the table for the 28-year-old.

The three firsts will come in 2025, 2026 and 2027.

It's interesting because this year's first (currently No.19) was initially going to head to St Kilda for Rowan Marshall, but the Saints appear adamant Marshall will stay at the club now.

Curnow's club of choice at this stage is reportedly Geelong over Sydney, but it'll be interesting to see whether this prompts the Swans to chuck in their own offer.

Carlton will be salivating at the prospect of a bidding war.

Good morning everyone and welcome to ABC Sport's live coverage from day five of the AFL trade period!

It is hard to believe we're already at the end of the first week of this, but here we are.

Things are beginning to heat up, tempers are getting frayed, spicy quotes are getting thrown about all over the place, and offers are starting to fly in as well for some big names.

And guess who's going to be there to bring all of them right to your doorstep?

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Anyway before we get started with day five, here's what happened yesterday if you missed any of the action.

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